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Hearing transcripts

Dan Manville
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Hiya gang

I’ve had that much bother getting hearing transcripts in the past that I’ve largely given up on it but times move on and I come to wonder whether HMCTS have got their game together. I’ve got one particular case where a record of the hearing might be valuable.

Is it relatively straightforward these days?

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It should be easy enough to get the audio recording of the hearing sent to you by email; can’t say I have ever asked for a transcript.

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Have you tried the ‘manage my appeal’ link?
I’ve listened to a recording this way.

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Dan Manville - 13 August 2024 02:43 PM

Is it relatively straightforward these days?

 

Not in my experience, though I suspect there may be regional variation.

- recordings routinely requested along with the SOR request.
- recordings routinely not provided, though the SOR is.
- FTT does get its act together if there is a follow up request once the case is at UT.

A further note of caution. A few months back I had a case referred in to me when already at the UT permission stage where, unusually, it became apparent that the whole case was going to turn on what was said in the hearing. I managed to get the recording from the FTT but it is supplied in a format and file size which is both incompatible and too large for UT e-filing (and this was a hearing that lasted only 20 minutes). So if you’re potentially looking at similar you might want to bear that in mind. What with our having software needs etc determined by LCN, it wasn’t possible for me to install third party sound compression tools. I got around the problem by saving the recording to our network and sending the original CD-ROM to the UT.

ps - can’t speak for the ‘track my appeal’ thing. It may work better using that.

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past caring - 20 August 2024 12:26 PM
Dan Manville - 13 August 2024 02:43 PM

Is it relatively straightforward these days?

 

I got around the problem by saving the recording to our network and sending the original CD-ROM to the UT.

ps - can’t speak for the ‘track my appeal’ thing. It may work better using that.

Last time I was sent the CD-ROM I had to sign a contract in blood agreeing that I would be Very Bloomin Careful with it and send it back in one piece unblemished.

I didn’t know they’d invested 30 quid in a burner now…

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I think the problem started once CVP hearings became the norm.

When hearings could only take place by telephone at the start of the pandemic , the recording would be a simple audio recording as a relatively smalll MP3 file.

The audio recording now comes as a large MP4 file that might as well be a video file given the size of it