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IS and JSA child “premia” to continue beyond 31 December 2014

elaineforrest
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It seems that some pretentious soul has decided to use the Latin plural for “Premiums”.
Oh dear!

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sorry about that - just following what the statutory instrument calling them - however, have changed it in the interests of plain speech -

http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/news/story/income-support-and-jobseekers-allowance-child-premiums

cheers ros

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I wasn’t getting at you Ros.
It was the SI writer I meant.

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DMG 01/07
It was expected that by 6.4.05 all child elements of IS and JSA(IB) would have migrated to CTC but this was delayed and the expected end date of migration (and final abolition of all child elements) was changed from 6.4.05 to 31.12.06.

A continued delay with the start of migration requires that the date for the abolition of child elements be extended again. The changes confirm that the final date for the abolition of child elements of IS and JSA(IB) is now to be 31.12.08.

Only 12 years in the waiting and still can’t get it right.  Obviously on time and on budget.

Shaun

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To be fair the word stems from the Latin.  In a similar vein the word stadium also comes from the Latin (which modified the Greek).  The plural of the word stadium is usually given as stadia although some dictionaries give both stadia and stadiums.  It is often difficult when to know which particular rule to apply, let alone knowing what the rules are.  For instance, when I was at school I was always taught that the plural of roof was always roofs and never rooves.  Most modern scholars will now accept either.

It seems we are a lot less precious these days.  That’s not to say there are no standards, notwithstanding the zealotry of the apostrophe police.  One of my particular irritations is “should of” instead of “should have”.  There are others, but I’m getting help now.  Where our rules of grammar stem from rules that come from the classical world then I defy anyone, even those with a classical education, to get to grips with the following.  If in doubt, just consult a good dictionary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_declension

 

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nevip - 15 July 2014 04:18 PM

One of my particular irritations is “should of” instead of “should have”. 

Me too Nevip. It grates like scraping chalk on a blackboard. It particularly irritates me when professionals do it. I’ve seen it in letters from GP practises and from social workers.

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I thought the use of ‘premia’ was a sign that Boris Johnson had somehow sneaked in to the DWP. Cripes!

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johnwilson - 15 July 2014 04:00 PM

I wasn’t getting at you Ros.
It was the SI writer I meant.

Thanks John