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Recoverable overpayment caused by partner’s successful appeal

Jon (CANY)
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Member of a couple applies for MA. She is turned down (incorrectly) on the earnings condition. She appeals. In the meantime he is signing on, they are receiving couple rate JSA. The MA appeal succeeds, arrears are paid. DWP decide he has a recoverable JSA overpayment due to the “late payment” of partner’s MA. It seems to us that they had not misrepresented or failed to disclose anything, but we presume DWP are using s74 of SSBA 1992, which says that late payment of prescribed income must lead to a recoverable overpayment.

Is there any chance that because it was not just an administratively “late” payment of an MA claim that was being processed, but an MA award subject to a pending appeal, then s74 does not apply?

Or, is there a challenge to one person’s arrears leading to the other person’s benefit being recovered? Sweet and Maxwell suggests CIS/5048/2002 is relevant here, but I can’t find a full copy.

(Salt in the wound is that the overpayment continued a few weeks after the MA appeal decision, and cl then got a civil penalty..).

Bonus question: MA arrears paid on appeal may also lead to an HB overpayment. Should the MA office’s mistake amount to an official error?

[ Edited: 15 May 2013 at 07:46 pm by Jon (CANY) ]
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Section 74(1) is a bit vague and probably deliberately so.  It is not clear as to whether the phrase “the Secretary of State shall be entitled to recover that amount from the person to whom it was paid” refers to the prescribed payment, the partners means tested benefit, or either.

For HB it could possible amount to official error but then, of course, the question arises of whether the claimant could reasonably have known that he was being overpaid?

CIS/5048/2002 attached.

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Thank you, very helpful.

The JSA up to the point of the MA decision seems worth an appeal, to at least check the exact regulation relied on by the SoS.

For HB in the same period, I don’t know how many people would reasonably know that: (a) his partner would win her appeal, (b) what the amount of MA awarded would be once she won, and then (c) what would be the effect of the MA due on their other benefits.

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I was thinking more about the HB situation and remembered this.  See para’ 7.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2006/213/regulation/79/made

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Thanks, I think the HB must be recoverable.
Just for future ref, the effect of that rule wasn’t considered in CH 38 2008 - but there, a subsequent award of IB on appeal was in part too subjective a decision to be official error, but also found to be not official error because “it is not an error which relates to the award of HB or CTB”.