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Slowly
                              

Assistant Tenancy Services Manager, Milecastle Housing Hexham
Member since
12th Jul 2005

Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 11:21 AM

Can anyone tell me if there are any rules regarding the payment of four weekly housing benefit to Housing Associations please? I believe the current method is to pay the four weeks HB during the fifth week.


Thank you

  

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RE: Payment in arrears, bensup, 12th Jul 2005, #1
RE: Payment in arrears, Slowly, 12th Jul 2005, #2
      RE: Payment in arrears, BobKirkpatrick, 12th Jul 2005, #3
           RE: Payment in arrears, Slowly, 12th Jul 2005, #4
                RE: Payment in arrears, BobKirkpatrick, 12th Jul 2005, #5

bensup
                              

Benefits Supervisor, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
24th May 2004

RE: Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 11:42 AM

You need to look at Regulation 90 (2A) & (2B) of the Housing Benefit (General) Regulations 1987.

This can be found at page 442-443 of CPAG's Housing and Council Tax Benefit Legislation. Seventeenth Edition.

Really hope this helps you!!

  

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Slowly
                              

Assistant Tenancy Services Manager, Milecastle Housing Hexham
Member since
12th Jul 2005

RE: Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 12:42 PM

Thanks for that.
I guess what I am querying is if it is reasonable for payment to be made during the following week (eg four weeks ending 10 July 2005, and paid on Wednesday 13th July). From the text you kindly referred me to it would appear that it is.

regards

  

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BobKirkpatrick
                              

Welfare Benefits adviser, Notting Hill Housing Trust, London
Member since
18th Feb 2004

RE: Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 12:47 PM

I beg to disagree.

Reg 90 says that payment shall be made (insofar as it is practicable to do so) at the END OF THE PERIOD IN RESPECT OF WHICH IT IS MADE.

Therefore, if payment is to be made direct to a landlord every 4 weeks, then it should be made AT THE END OF THE 4 WEEK PERIOD - not at the beginning of the next 4 week period (which would be the 5th week).

The main problem with this payment cycle is that even if a payment is sent to a landlord at the end of the 4th week, it will not be credited to the rent account until the beginning of 5th week, by which time the 5th week's rent has fallen due, so there will be a week's arrears showing as a minimum throughout the tenancy. Some local authorities who make the payment in the 5th week make it towards the end of that week, which means that it isn't credited to the rent account until the beginning of the 6th week - meaning two weeks arrears showing. And, of course, the arrears increase until the next payment is made.

Perhaps there is nothing to stop an authority considering that the 4th benefit week is actually the "end" of the 4 week period, and therefore issuing a payment on, say, a Tuesday (which is a day after that benefit week has started). It could then be credited to the rent account by the landlord at the end of that week, and the rent account would therefore be wholly accurate.

This has recently been raise don the hbinfo website, so you might look at that as well.

  

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Slowly
                              

Assistant Tenancy Services Manager, Milecastle Housing Hexham
Member since
12th Jul 2005

RE: Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 02:08 PM

Thank you
Do you have the hbinfo url please?

  

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BobKirkpatrick
                              

Welfare Benefits adviser, Notting Hill Housing Trust, London
Member since
18th Feb 2004

RE: Payment in arrears
Tue 12-Jul-05 02:53 PM

It's www.hbinfo.org - you'll have to register to use the message boards.

  

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