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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 10:56 AM

Hi all, I'm having another of those weeks when I'm posting a number of queries.

If client's estranged partner pays shortfall of rent directly to landlord is this counted as notional income for IS purposes?

I've had a look and it seems it would only be considered if husband's payments covered rent for which HB 'could' be payable. Client HB awarded in full but still a >£30 pw shortfall so as far as I'm concerned HB couldn't be payable. Waddya think?

Sue

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Capital payments to third party, SLloyd, 24th Aug 2006, #1
RE: Capital payments to third party, fkaGerry2, 24th Aug 2006, #2
      RE: Capital payments to third party, suelees, 24th Aug 2006, #3
           RE: Capital payments to third party, shawn, 24th Aug 2006, #4
                RE: Capital payments to third party, suelees, 24th Aug 2006, #5

SLloyd
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser/Trainee Solicitor, Thorpes Solicitors, Hereford
Member since
03rd Feb 2005

RE: Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 11:37 AM

I had a very similar case where client's father paid rent for her which was then taken into account as income for IS. I advised to claim HB (there were reasons why she didn't want to but that's another story) and for the father to pay the shortfall. Unfortunatly I never got the hear the outcome so I am about as much use to you as an chocolate teacup although I can only assume that no news was good news. My interpretation of the reg was the same as yours!

  

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fkaGerry2
                              

Deputy Manager, Sheffield Advice Link
Member since
20th Dec 2005

RE: Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 12:19 PM

Does this case help?

http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/markup.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2004/1671.html&query=perkins&method=all

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 01:36 PM

oh 'eck. I wanted to scan through it and something jump out at me. I should've known better. I'll have to wait until my head's clearer and I can take it in!!

Many thanks for bringing it to my attention though.

  

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shawn
                              

editorial director, rightsnet
Member since
28th Jul 2005

RE: Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 02:16 PM

if helpful ... there's a summary of the case in rightsnet news @

Disregarding voluntary payments as income: Court of Appeal judgment

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Capital payments to third party
Thu 24-Aug-06 03:04 PM

"if helpful..."? course it is. Thanks Shawn

  

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