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Martin_Williams
                              

Appeals Representative, London Advice Services Alliance- london
Member since
21st Jan 2004

Overpayments and "Person acting on his behalf"
Tue 01-Mar-05 02:25 PM

A recent case taken to Commissioner by LASA may be of some (limited) help to claimant’s who are overpaid HB/CTB.

Reg 99 uses the term “person acting on his behalf” two times:

1. In relation to whether a person acting on behalf of the claimant contributed to any official error (Reg 99(3)).
2. In relation to whether such a person ought reasonably to have realised that an overpayment was occurring.

Clearly the fewer people into whose knowledge about and contribution to an overpayment the Tribunal can inquire the better for claimants.

Analysis in Findlay (page 461) suggests that the “person acting on his behalf” in Reg 99(3) “probably also includes those who are dealing with the authority on her/his behalf on an informal basis”.

Part of the grounds of appeal used by the claimant in this case (the claimant herself had learning difficulties and really wasn’t in a position to realise much at all) was that the Tribunal had been wrong to say that the claimant’s family members (who helped with completion of forms etc) were “person{s} acting on {her} behalf” as the wording should be given the narrower meaning which only extends to those authorised under Reg 71 and other limited circumstances.

Commissioner Turnbull is explicit in his decision that he does not decide this point. However, he does say that:

“13. As regards the issue whether the Claimant, “or a person acting on her behalf” could reasonably have been expected to realise that she was not entitled to the payments, my provisional view is that the argument on behalf of the claimant that in that provision (i.e. reg. 99(2)) the phrase “or a person acting on her behalf” is limited to an appointee or other person with official status may have much to commend it”

Clearly the point is not decided (and the Commissioner does not rehearse the arguments we made in his decision) but I feel representatives may be able to argue that Commissioner Turnbull’s comments on the meaning of “person acting on his behalf” should be persuasive to Tribunals deciding similar points. Certainly, it shows that it would be worth arguing for the narrower interpretation of "person acting on his behalf" before the Commissioners in any case which is lost at Tribunal and where the decision of the Tribunal makes it clear that they took into account what people helping the claimant informally should have known etc.

I assume that as the same phrase is used both in relation to the causation of the official error and to “reasonably be expected to realise an overpayment” then the argument may work in relation to either test (surely the same phrase in two paragraphs of the same regulation will have the same meaning?).

  

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RE: Overpayments and, ken, 01st Mar 2005, #1
RE: Overpayments and, Kevin D, 13th Mar 2005, #2

ken
                              

Charter member

RE: Overpayments and
Tue 01-Mar-05 03:43 PM

The overpayments decision by Commissioner Turnbull that Martin hightlights is now available on rightsnet - CH/3806/2004

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Overpayments and
Sun 13-Mar-05 06:47 PM

Assuming I haven't got this back to front (it's been a busy weekend...!), Comm Turnbull's observations seem to have echoes of findings made in a backdating case - CH/1791/2004 (available from the Commissioners site).

In CH/1791/2004, a carer failed to make a timely HB claim for a clmt. The LA decided good cause was not shown because the carer should have made the claim. The Commissioner found that as the carer did not fall within the terms of HBR 71, it must be the CLAIMANT'S actions / omissions that counted.

Apologies if the above turns out to be irrelevant to your case - I am VERY tired....

Regards

  

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