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KKey
                              

Housing/Finance consultant, Six-Key Policy Advisers, Darlington
Member since
21st Aug 2008

Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Thu 21-Aug-08 11:01 AM

Hi all,

I have a client who has been refused HB, as she half-owns a property with her ex-husband (She was awarded this in a divorce settlement about 10 years ago). She has been living with family since the divorce, but has now been rehoused in a supported living complex, hence the application for HB. Neither her nor her ex-husband can afford to buy another property in the area should they sell this one, as the value of it is low (about £60,000, although I don't know how that valuation was obtained). Also, the ex-husband has flatly refused to sell the house, so this will only happen after his death.

Is there a way that the elderly lady can take reasonable steps to dispose of the property and, as a result, qualify for HB? For example, could she simply transfer her half of the property to her husband? Or would this fall foul of the rule of deprivation of capital?

Thanks,
Your sincerely,
K Key

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB., nevip, 21st Aug 2008, #1
RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB., jimmckenny, 21st Aug 2008, #2
      RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB., Rita, 21st Aug 2008, #3
           RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB., ariadne2, 21st Aug 2008, #4
                RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB., stainsby, 22nd Aug 2008, #5

nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Thu 21-Aug-08 11:30 AM

If she transfers her beneficial interest (as opposed to merely transferring any legal title she might have) and it is a significant operative purpose of the transfer to gain entitlement to benefit then the notional capital rules will apply.

However, if she approaches a solicitor for advice about realizing that beneficial interest (for example, by applying to the court) then that interest can be ignored for 6 months from the dater of that approach, or longer if it is reasonable in all the circumstances.

  

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jimmckenny
                              

social services, kirklees metropolitan council
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Thu 21-Aug-08 02:37 PM

If he is refusing to sell, what is the value of her share in the property?

  

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Rita
                              

Welfare Rights Worker, Derby Advice, Derby City Council
Member since
23rd Aug 2007

RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Thu 21-Aug-08 03:17 PM

The alternative approach as suggested above, might be to agrue that the current market value of her share is worthless? Have a look at CIS 2661 2006

There is a good discussion about reasonable steps and valuing capital in situations like this.

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Thu 21-Aug-08 07:59 PM

I presume the ex-husband doesn't live there, which might make getting a court order for sale easier. If it was sold as a whole of course she would have actual capital.

  

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stainsby
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Gallions Housing Association, Thamesmead SE London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Elderly lady half-owns property, denied HB.
Fri 22-Aug-08 03:34 PM

The right to apply for a property adjustment order under the matrimonial causes act is not a capital asset (See R(IS)1/03.)

The value of the deemed share was considered in R(JSA)1/02 and in CIS/3197/2003 and in a housing benefit case by Mr Commissioner Jacobs in CH/1953/2003.

I think that in this situation you have a strong argument that the deemed share is worthless since there likely to be no active market in such investments

  

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