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BobKirkpatrick
                              

Welfare Benefits adviser, Notting Hill Housing Trust, London
Member since
18th Feb 2004

TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Fri 07-Jan-05 02:02 PM

Up till now, I have only ever contacted the Tax Credit office by letter (and normally get a reply within 6 weeks or so). However, I needed to telephone them today in respect of a client who had previously given me written authority to act on their behalf, and in respect of whom I have in the recent past received two letters from the Tax Credit office.

So, naively, I rang the number on the letter (0845 3003900, which is their helpline), only to be told they couldn't speak to me and I needed to phone the dedicated helpline for advisers. When I asked for the number of this line I was told (a) they couldn't give it out for security reasons and (b) they didn't know it anyway.

As it's an urgent enquiry (payments have inexplicably stopped) what the **** am I supposed to do now?

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, BrianSmith, 07th Jan 2005, #1
RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, BobKirkpatrick, 07th Jan 2005, #2
RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, 1964, 10th Jan 2005, #3
      RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, Andrew_Fisher, 10th Jan 2005, #4
           RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, Andrew_Fisher, 10th Jan 2005, #5
                RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, BobKirkpatrick, 10th Jan 2005, #6
RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, David-Wolves, 19th Feb 2005, #7
      RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, shawn, 21st Feb 2005, #8
           RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, shawn, 21st Feb 2005, #9
                RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES, Derek, 21st Feb 2005, #10

BrianSmith
                              

Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust
Member since
06th Oct 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Fri 07-Jan-05 02:49 PM

Reps line is 0845 3003946. You will need to set up an office identification number (OIN) with them, then fax them authorisation signed by the client (both for joint claims) on their own form before they will discuss cases without the client being present.

  

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BobKirkpatrick
                              

Welfare Benefits adviser, Notting Hill Housing Trust, London
Member since
18th Feb 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Fri 07-Jan-05 03:11 PM

Thanks for this. Now I know. Very helpful when the client is the other side of London.........

  

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1964
                              

Deputy Manager, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
15th Apr 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 10-Jan-05 11:26 AM

However, be warned that it doesn't always work. I rang IR this morning about a client and suddenly, inexplicably, they have no record of having authorisation to speak to me in spite of having had a record of said authorisation when I rang them on 14/12 & 22/12 respectively. This has happened quite often lately- am just in the process of writing to Customer Services to give off about it.

  

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Andrew_Fisher
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Stevenage Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 10-Jan-05 12:17 PM

Old tips are the best - keep ringing the helpline. If you get a northern english accent say wrong number. Keep ringing till you get a Scottish accent - they don't seem to insist on TC689s etc.

  

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Andrew_Fisher
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Stevenage Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 10-Jan-05 12:20 PM

Whoops perhaps I had better clarify that this has nothing to do with the people who come from the North of England and Scotland. It's just that there are two offices who seem to run the helpline and the one based in Scotland seems to have a different DPA policy.

You may well get a Socttish person working in the North of England office and vice versa, or someone in either office following the other office's policy, but it's a good rule of thumb.

  

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BobKirkpatrick
                              

Welfare Benefits adviser, Notting Hill Housing Trust, London
Member since
18th Feb 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 10-Jan-05 02:54 PM

Surprise surprise - rang the advisers number this morning and had no trouble discussing the case at all - without the need to fax through authorisation. I seem to recall the person I spoke to had a Geordie accent - perhaps he was on a high after Newcastle's good fortune on Sunday......

  

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David-Wolves
                              

Tax Credit Advisor, Inland Revenue, Merry Hill, West Midlands
Member since
05th Jun 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Sat 19-Feb-05 04:50 PM

It always amazes me that these adviser numbers are put on this board with no regard to security, the reason the tax credit advisers dont have the number for CAB or DWP lines is to stop them giving it out to anyone who asks for it. And now it has been published on this board for anyone to see, it only takes a person to know a few details about someone else, call the number you have just listed, and have total access to a claimants records.

  

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shawn
                              

Charter member

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 21-Feb-05 08:49 AM

as detailed above, even with the reps line number

'You will need to set up an office identification number (OIN) with them, then fax them authorisation signed by the client (both for joint claims) on their own form before they will discuss cases without the client being present.'
so there is 'regard to security' ... without an OIN a person can't 'call the number you have just listed, and have total access to a claimants records.'

  

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shawn
                              

Charter member

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 21-Feb-05 11:48 AM

found a news story we did in august on the office identificatiion number issue ...

Faxing an authority to deal with an urgent tax credits query: Inland Revenue introduce new system

IR says the system was set up 'to ensure that we preserve the confidentiality of customer information and protect personal details from bogus callers. Before we discuss a claimant's tax credits affairs with a third party, we need to be sure that they are who they say they are and that the claimant (or claimants where there is a joint claim) have given their consent' ...

it does however focus on calling the IR on the Tax Credits Helpline .... is the same system not in place for the adviser number?

  

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Derek
                              

CAB Adviser, Esher CAB
Member since
09th Mar 2004

RE: TELEPHONE ENQUIRIES
Mon 21-Feb-05 04:47 PM

Shawn
Yes, the system is just the same on the adviser number.

  

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