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Sayo
                              

Welfare Benefits Case-Worker, Maidstone Citizens Advice, Kent
Member since
02nd Nov 2004

R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?
Wed 18-Jun-08 11:15 AM

hello fellow welfare benefitologists
and yet another R2R poser ...
can a person, namely an eea national from portugal, gain the R2R if they have been in the uk for a continuous period of 5 years, and rely on the titles regs to argue this ?
have a cl. who is a portugese national, has been in uk for approx. 16 years, and has 3 children aged 16, 11, and 8 who are in education.
i am sure they have worked at some point during their stay but have now been refused i.s as a lone parent, and has been told she must claim j.s.a.
can we appeal i.s decision ?
help ! ! !
baumbast and b****r !

enjoy your week

pete

  

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RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?, claire hodgson, 19th Jun 2008, #1
RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?, ros_white, 19th Jun 2008, #2
      RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?, ariadne2, 19th Jun 2008, #3

claire hodgson
                              

Solicitor, Askews Solicitors, Thornaby, Stockton on Tees
Member since
17th May 2005

RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?
Thu 19-Jun-08 06:47 AM

read mccarthy:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2008/641.html

Court of appeal analysing the RTR provisions. I reckon that might help you. (Mrs McCarthy lost, but because she had dual citizenship (UK & Irish) and had always lived here).

  

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ros_white
                              

welfare benefits adviser, notting hill housing trust, hammersmith
Member since
11th Jan 2008

RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?
Thu 19-Jun-08 08:57 AM

Hi.

On the commissioner's website it says that tribunal of commissioners has been appointed to look at five year permanent residence condition and Baumbaust (CIS/1471/2007).

Maybe you should put an appeal in and get it stayed pending the outcome of that decision. In the mean time, I think your client would be strongly advised to claim JSA if at all possible, otherwise HB, CHB and CTC will all be in jeopardy.

cheers Ros

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: R2R - 5 years ... sch 4 para 6 eea regs 2006 ?
Thu 19-Jun-08 05:22 PM

Can you not find out if at any time since he arrived he has lived here for 5 years consecutively either as an employee or jobseeking between jobs? In my view it shouldn't matter when that was, but lots of EEA nationals have been here a long time and many of them can probably be assumed to have acquired permanent rights by now, without having to rely on the very dubious authority of Baumbast (which I have to say I have never felt happy with as an authority in social security law, since it was so very obviously an immigration case).

  

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