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carol obeirne
                              

welfare rights unit, cardiff council
Member since
20th Jul 2004

judicial review
Thu 09-Jun-05 09:04 AM

I want to ask CHB to make an interim payment. The initial response (on the phone admittedlt!) was " Oh we never do that".
I think this is fettering discretion, which could be challenged by judicial review.
I've never done a judicial review before, nor have any of my colleagues. What steps do I need to do? I have a copy of the letter before JD from DCA website. Does client need a solicitor?
Carol

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: judicial review, andyplatts, 09th Jun 2005, #1
RE: judicial review, carol obeirne, 09th Jun 2005, #2
      RE: judicial review, andyplatts, 09th Jun 2005, #3
           RE: judicial review, Andrew_Fisher, 15th Jun 2005, #4
RE: judicial review, dave_p, 21st Jun 2005, #5
RE: judicial review, carol obeirne, 22nd Jun 2005, #6
      RE: judicial review, northwiltshire, 07th Jul 2005, #7

andyplatts
                              

Team Manager, Welfare and Employment Rights Servic, Leicester City Council, Leicester
Member since
11th Feb 2004

RE: judicial review
Thu 09-Jun-05 09:53 AM

Client will def need solicitor or Law Centre because Legal Aid is required to cover HB's costs if you lose. While you can write the letter before action yourself it might not be appropriate to do so until you have written an initial letter as I've said below. Also, and this is purely a matter of tactics, I reckon a Local Authority legal dept is much more likely to take a letter from a solicitor more seriously than one from a welfare rights officer. This shouldn't be the case but, in the real world, probably is.

Although technically you do not have to request an IP it is probably a good idea to do so reminding them of the time limits for doing so (which may already have run out by now) and giving them a further short period to comply e.g another week or two. Obviously it is worth checking that they're not waiting for any info from the client.

Another option is to go to the Ombudsman because this is something you can do without worrying about legal aid. Ok, it obfiously doesn't have the force of a High Court order but few local authorities will be keen on the PR consequences of ignoring an ombudsmans report. Again, you have to give the Council the chance to remedy the problem before going to the Ombudsman so a similar letter to the above would be required.

If you have evidence of HB regularly or routinely refusing to make interim payments then it is definitely worth a JR, not just with the individual case but of their apparent policy. Someone like the Public Law Project (don't know contact details but sure they have a website) would be the best people to discuss regarding that.

  

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carol obeirne
                              

welfare rights unit, cardiff council
Member since
20th Jul 2004

RE: judicial review
Thu 09-Jun-05 11:20 AM

Thanks Andy, will ponder on this.
My CHB stands for Child Benefit in this case (my auto correct shorthand!).
If I just write and ask for the interim paymnet, I could suggest a solicitor to the client, if they refuse to consider it.

  

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andyplatts
                              

Team Manager, Welfare and Employment Rights Servic, Leicester City Council, Leicester
Member since
11th Feb 2004

RE: judicial review
Thu 09-Jun-05 11:28 AM

Sorry misunderstood, presumed you meant HB. I think at least some of what I said is still relevant!

  

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Andrew_Fisher
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser, Stevenage Citizens Advice Bureau
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: judicial review
Wed 15-Jun-05 11:44 AM

Public Law Project 0808 808 4546 M&W 2pm -5pm Tue&Th 10am 1pm

  

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dave_p
                              

immigration solicitor, bury law centre
Member since
15th Jun 2005

RE: judicial review
Tue 21-Jun-05 12:41 PM

I think you'll need a lot more evidence than an unconfirmed telephone conversation to get to JR on this point. Do you have anything else to support the fact that this is IR policy?

  

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carol obeirne
                              

welfare rights unit, cardiff council
Member since
20th Jul 2004

RE: judicial review
Wed 22-Jun-05 07:45 AM

Point taken! The only other proof is that they just refused to consider my (written) request. I would press for a written decision. However, we have found another way round the problem at present for this family so I won't get to flex any JR muscles this time.

  

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northwiltshire
                              

welfare rights officer, c.a.b. n.wiltshire
Member since
26th Jan 2004

RE: judicial review
Thu 07-Jul-05 12:08 PM

What a shame a successful JR is so satisfying.

  

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