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mike shermer
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Kings Lynn & West Norfolk Borough Council, Kings l
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

HB/CTB BACKDATING
Fri 06-Feb-04 03:14 PM

I have a client with ME, which disables him quite badly. As a result of pressure from social services, we rehoused him in a LA bungalow.

He was offered this property on 12.8.2002 - I helped complete the new HB/CTB claim form - this was mislaid by Benefits section, so I went out & did another with him in October - on this one we asked for backdating to August as original form lost - on checking the claim for other reasons recently we noted that this request for B/Dating was over looked - not actioned at all, and the claim paid from October. On this matter, at first glance it doesn't look as if he has any appeal rights as it's over 12 months - but if the cause was that the LA did not action a B/dating request, does that open the door, similar to the old any time review in BA language?

secondly, HB section are also saying that because he didn't move in immediately, he couldn't have been paid until he did take up occupation anyway - which was early September. However, the reason he couldn't move was that he is disabled by ME, and totally reliant on others, as he had no money to pay for removals etc - could'nt ask Social fund as his ICB was above applicable amount - again, does he have any grounds for asking for a reconsideration of that decision.

All this has taken so long to come to light because he is really finding it hard to cope and to concentrate with this sort of thing. As he says, his brain feels like it's in slow motion most of the time.

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING, jj, 06th Feb 2004, #1
RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING-CORRECTION, jj, 06th Feb 2004, #2
      RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING-CORRECTION, stainsby, 17th Feb 2004, #3

jj
                              

welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING
Fri 06-Feb-04 05:30 PM

on the back-dating issue - they received a back-dating request in October and should give a determination on it, with appeal rights. if it's been overlooked, technically, the decision is still outstanding, and you could push for a determination. they might want to know why he didn't chase it but you have disability reasons.

re the original mislaid claim - if they received it, then lost it, the date of claim should be the date it was received, and as the claim was not late, the backdating request was superfluous. The completion of the duplicate claim can be regarded as a resubmission of information needed by the LA to determine entitlement. If they have no record of the first claim being received, but you have good evidence that they received it, eg a receipt, or a case-note that you delivered it by hand, you could argue that they should _administratively_ accept the first claim as the date of claim, especially if there were admin problems on the HB section and loss of claim forms was common. the claimant should not suffer for their admin problems. if this was not the case, and the HB system has no record of the claim being received, i think the tribunals would normally accept the LA's evidence that no record = no claim received, unless you have something compelling to convice it otherwise. either way, i think all is not yet lost!

on the commencement date of the award, client seems to have a good reason for not moving in immediately, and his liability started in August - have they said why he can't be treated as occupying the home for a period n/e 4 weeks, under reg 6?

jj

  

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jj
                              

welfare rights adviser, saltley & nechells law centre birmingham
Member since
21st Jan 2004

RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING-CORRECTION
Fri 06-Feb-04 05:36 PM

doh! sorry - reg 5 (d)
: )

jj

  

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stainsby
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Gallions Housing Association, Thamesmead SE London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: HB/CTB BACKDATING-CORRECTION
Tue 17-Feb-04 11:33 AM

Reg 5(5) is only relevant if HB is being claimed for both homes. If HB is beiong claimed for both, then you can only get HB on both if he has not moved into the new home if the delay was due to adapting the new home for disability needs.

If no HB is invloved in the previous home then Reg 5(6)will come into play and he can be treated as occupying the new home for up to 4 weeks before moving in

  

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