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Lin
                              

Welfare Benefits Service Co-ordinator, National Deaf Children's Society
Member since
02nd Sep 2004

DLA
Wed 11-May-05 03:55 PM

I have a complicated DLA case, family claimed DLA for their son, this was turned down they went through the process of revision, and the claim is now at appeal.

meanwhile they started a 2nd DLA claim which was also turned down, however the family did not dispute this decision in the time period.

should I suggest they start another DLA claim (3rd claim)to pick up benefit now.

my understanding is that the Tribunal will only look at the 1st claim from point of claim to point of 2nd claim. and that 2nd claim decision cannot be overturned at Tribunal.

any help gratefully recieved.

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: DLA, 1964, 12th May 2005, #1
RE: DLA, Lin, 12th May 2005, #2
      RE: DLA, jimpepin, 12th May 2005, #3
           RE: DLA, stainsby, 12th May 2005, #4
RE: DLA, Rob_Price, 13th May 2005, #5
RE: DLA, Lin, 13th May 2005, #6
      RE: DLA, stainsby, 13th May 2005, #7
           RE: DLA, Lin, 13th May 2005, #8
           RE: DLA, nevip, 13th May 2005, #9

1964
                              

Deputy Manager, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
15th Apr 2004

RE: DLA
Thu 12-May-05 09:02 AM

I would suggest they bung in a late appeal against the second decision and ask for both appeals to be heard together.

  

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Lin
                              

Welfare Benefits Service Co-ordinator, National Deaf Children's Society
Member since
02nd Sep 2004

RE: DLA
Thu 12-May-05 09:34 AM

I had considered a late appeal , but in all honesty there are no grounds for one, the family just decided not to dispute it. we had informed them at the time they should have done so.

  

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jimpepin
                              

Adult Social Services, Borough of Poole
Member since
29th Jan 2004

RE: DLA
Thu 12-May-05 10:57 AM

Surely you could make a simple enough case, if they want DLA to continue if awarded on the original claim. They could say they didn't realise they had to appeal the second decision, since they were already waiting for an appeal hearing on the first. This is, after all, a pretty technical point for a layman to have grasped!

Jim

  

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stainsby
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Gallions Housing Association, Thamesmead SE London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: DLA
Thu 12-May-05 01:08 PM

You can do a late appeal on the sole ground that the substantive appeal has a resonable chance of success

  

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Rob_Price
                              

Principal Welfare & Income Officer, Shropshire County Council
Member since
02nd Dec 2004

RE: DLA
Fri 13-May-05 08:48 AM

Your understanding is correct- 2nd claim effectively shoots first claim in the foot. But are they really out of time for the 2nd decision? If you could find a compelling argument for a late claim, eg other pressures in the family, unavailability of help at the time, you could get away with a late appeal (I've managed up to 6 months late using this). The longer the delay, the trickier this becomes. If you go down this avenue then any third claim would have the same effect on the second as the second on the first.

  

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Lin
                              

Welfare Benefits Service Co-ordinator, National Deaf Children's Society
Member since
02nd Sep 2004

RE: DLA
Fri 13-May-05 08:55 AM

thanks for the advice re second claim, not sure if this is an availble route, family had full information from us at the time about need to dispute second decision, but chose not to dispite the effect not disputing would have, they seemed to want to "wait and see" regardless!

so do not feel so comfy suggesting they say they doid not get help at the time. otherwise I have used late appeals in the past to good effect.

  

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stainsby
                              

Welfare Benefits Officer, Gallions Housing Association, Thamesmead SE London
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: DLA
Fri 13-May-05 09:26 AM

If you do not feel comfy suggestign they did not get help on time why not just go for the "reasonable chance of success" route with a late appeal.

I have manged to do this several times

  

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Lin
                              

Welfare Benefits Service Co-ordinator, National Deaf Children's Society
Member since
02nd Sep 2004

RE: DLA
Fri 13-May-05 10:29 AM

Thanks, will probably give this a go.

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: DLA
Fri 13-May-05 10:32 AM

I fully agree with Stainsby. You only need to show that the case has reasonable prospects of success. After outlining the details of the substantive issue I use the following standard paragraph. Not had a problem so far.

Thus, it remains arguable at least, that Mrs …… is still virtually unable to walk/needs help with……. If that is so then only a full hearing of all the facts and evidence, including the verbal evidence of Mrs ……, can form the basis of a truly accurate decision in this case. If the case is arguable then it is entirely reasonable to conclude that it could go either way. In other words it could reasonably succeed or reasonably fail.

Hope this helps

Regards
Paul


  

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