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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

Amended decision after appeal
Mon 21-Aug-06 11:26 AM

I had a joint appeal (HB/IS) re overpayment of benefits due to alleged LTAHAW. We receive letter from TAS with the following "I have been told by the Benefit Officer that he/she has examined their original decision which has been superseded by a revised decision. The officer states that the decsion which he has made on the review is the same as the decision that would have been made on the appeal had every ground of the appeal succeeded. There is now no need for the tribunal to hear the appeal".

Nice one (we thought) but now LA have sent out an amended decision, merely reducing the period of o/p. I've written to Debt Management to see if they are also intending to send out an amended IS o/p decision. Guess what, this was in May with a number of reminders since but I've heard nowt.

My appeal against this amended LA decision is on the grounds that the original lapsed due to the reasons given to me by TAS (as above). He says that's not good enough and it's not a valid appeal so my only option is to put in the same challenge as for the original. I can't think what to do next. It doesn't seem right and I'm bewildered and can't see the wood for the trees. Help please.

Sue

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Amended decision after appeal, claire hodgson, 21st Aug 2006, #1
RE: Amended decision after appeal, suelees, 21st Aug 2006, #2
RE: Amended decision after appeal, Kevin D, 22nd Aug 2006, #3
RE: Amended decision after appeal, suelees, 22nd Aug 2006, #4
RE: Amended decision after appeal, Kevin D, 22nd Aug 2006, #5

claire hodgson
                              

Solicitor, Askews Solicitors, Thornaby, Stockton on Tees
Member since
17th May 2005

RE: Amended decision after appeal
Mon 21-Aug-06 12:18 PM

get TAS to relist it.

and/or appeal the decision TAS told you about ...

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Amended decision after appeal
Mon 21-Aug-06 01:52 PM

Thanks Claire but I'd then be accepting they can make an amended decision despite what TAS letter says: "The Benefit Officer states that the decision which he has made on the review is the same as the decision that would have been made on the appeal had EVRY (my caps) ground of the appeal succeeded. There is now no need for the tribunal to hear the appeal".

Our grounds had been no cohab and sending in proof of separate addresses. We therefore though that was that.

I challenged the new decision as I considered they can't just send an amended one out if they have agreed there was no cohab in the first place.

I don't know whether they can do this or not and this is why I'm stuck.

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Amended decision after appeal
Tue 22-Aug-06 07:16 AM

An appeal can only lapse if the LA REVISES a decision. A supersession is not enough.

CH/2091/2005 (para 20?).

Unfortunately, I don't have access to my copy at the moment, so can't mail it or copy & paste.

Regards

  

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suelees
                              

Welfare and Debt Advisor, Stephensons Solicitors, Wigan
Member since
28th Jan 2004

RE: Amended decision after appeal
Tue 22-Aug-06 08:01 AM

Thanks Kevin, that's made it a lot clearer.

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Amended decision after appeal
Tue 22-Aug-06 08:09 AM

In my haste, I forgot to add for completeness that the LA can only revise if an appeal has not already been determined .

Regards



  

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