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camilla
                              

welfare rights worker, CAB
Member since
28th Oct 2004

Housing Benefit with no tenancy
Thu 28-Oct-04 12:20 PM

Hi everyone, Wondeing if anyone knows (I'm sure a lot of you do) if its poss to claim HB with no tenancy agreement.

Thanx

  

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RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy, Kevin D, 28th Oct 2004, #1
RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy, nevip, 28th Oct 2004, #2
RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy, derek_S, 28th Oct 2004, #3

Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy
Thu 28-Oct-04 12:51 PM

Yes. Er, at least in theory....

I assume by "no tenancy agreement", you mean WRITTEN tenancy agreement.

In law, it is sufficient for there only to be a verbal agreement for there to be an enforceable tenancy. Obviously, if there is no tenancy agreement, written or verbal, there can be no agreement.

However, the issue is about the quality of evidence. In my experience (20 yrs or so), I can only recall one case ever where a claim for HB was processed without at least a letter from the landlord to verify the rent. Without any substantive evidence, most LAs will be highly suspicious about whether or not there is a genuine liability.

The issue is the same in most other areas of law - a verbal contract is normally enough (there are exceptions), but if one party later disagrees that of the terms were what they agreed to, how can it be proven?

Out of curiousity, do you have any more information? It's possible it may affect the advice / info of others.

Regards

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy
Thu 28-Oct-04 12:54 PM

Yes, not a problem, legally. As long as there is a legal liability to pay rent and all other conditions are satisfied.

In practice however you will need to evidence that liability. A signed letter from the landlord usually suffices.

Regards
Paul

  

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derek_S
                              

Welfare benefit Adviser, Northern Counties Housing Association - South York
Member since
23rd Jan 2004

RE: Housing Benefit with no tenancy
Thu 28-Oct-04 12:54 PM

It is possible but you are asking too general a question The wording used in HB regs is "liability to make payments in relation to the dwelling s/he occupies as his/her home."


HB reg 5 deals with "occupies as a home"
HB reg 6&7 deals with "liability" to make payments on a home.
HB regs 7A & 7B deal with persons from abroad, refugees and asylum seekers.

Tenancy is only one of the (many) issues covered in these regs.

  

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