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BrianSmith
                              

Welfare rights officer, northumberland nhs care trust
Member since
06th Oct 2004

tenant has POA for joint owner
Thu 02-Aug-07 02:10 PM

One for the legal eagles. My client is tenant in property jointly owned by 3 people. He has power of attorney for one of the joint owners. HB section say they generally will accept a tenancy agreement signed by one joint owner on behalf of them all. Can my client therefore sign a tenancy agreement as tenant and on behalf of all the landlords?

  

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RE: tenant has POA for joint owner, SLloyd, 02nd Aug 2007, #1
RE: tenant has POA for joint owner, nevip, 02nd Aug 2007, #2
RE: tenant has POA for joint owner, HBSpecialists, 02nd Aug 2007, #3
      RE: tenant has POA for joint owner, ariadne2, 02nd Aug 2007, #4
           RE: tenant has POA for joint owner, iancity, 07th Aug 2007, #5

SLloyd
                              

Welfare Rights Adviser/Trainee Solicitor, Thorpes Solicitors, Hereford
Member since
03rd Feb 2005

RE: tenant has POA for joint owner
Thu 02-Aug-07 02:56 PM

In principle yes, but I think it would be unwise. As attorney, she has a duty to act at all times in the best interests of the donor and not to derive a personal benefit from the donors estate. In signing the tenancy agreement as the attorney she is granting herself the benefit of a tenancy and so is opening herself up to a whole can of worms. She would also be facing an increased possibility that the LA will view the tenancy as non comercial or even a contrivance. Much safer to have all the freeholders sign.

  

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nevip
                              

welfare rights adviser, sefton metropolitan borough council, liverpool.
Member since
22nd Jan 2004

RE: tenant has POA for joint owner
Thu 02-Aug-07 02:57 PM

Why create potential difficulties by signing as the owner? Why doesn't one of the other owners just sign?

  

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HBSpecialists
                              

Independent Housing Benefit Trainer/Appeals & Pres, HBSpecialists London
Member since
23rd Apr 2004

RE: tenant has POA for joint owner
Thu 02-Aug-07 06:04 PM

Quite agree with the above... There is significant room for arguing a conflict of interests in both HB (how can you set the rent for yourself, if acting as landlord you set it so high for yourself that you struggle to pay it?), and in land law (how can you evict yourself, when acting as landlord for repairs etc.)...

Unless of course you can say more about the power of attorney, and/or how it is exercised in conjunction with the other co-owners???

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: tenant has POA for joint owner
Thu 02-Aug-07 08:38 PM

What sort of power of attorney is it? A general power of attorney is not legally valid for matters in which the principal is a trustee. As land which is jointly owned is in law invariably held on trust for all the owners, only a special trustee power of attorney can be used in those circumstances.

In any event the conflict between landlord and tenant in this case is such that it would be wrong for the the landlord's attorney to act in any matter in which he is also a tenant. The other owners would almost certainly have the right to have any such transaction set aside if they so wished.

  

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iancity
                              

Benefit Fraud Officer, Wansbeck District Council, Northumberland
Member since
10th Mar 2005

RE: tenant has POA for joint owner
Tue 07-Aug-07 08:43 AM

Brian - if its in the Wansbeck area please dont let the tenant sign it otherwise it will come to me to investigate !!!!!!

  

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