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FIO
                              

Financial Inclusion Officer, Gloucestershire Housing Association, Gloucester
Member since
19th Nov 2008

Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Fri 12-Dec-08 08:03 AM

Don't know if anyone has an opinion about this, but some authorities seem to be still requiring claimants to provide evidence of Child Maintenance in payment to assess Housing Benefit. My understanding is that it no longer counts as income, and has no bearing in itself on premiums therefore would not appear to be relevant. Does anyone feel that it is therefore still evidence that is 'reasonably required'? It just seems unnecessary to me but I'm wouldn't want to advise against providing it and so potentiallly jeopardise someone's claim. What do you think (especially LA benefits staff)

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, ciaran, 12th Dec 2008, #1
RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, FIO, 12th Dec 2008, #2
      RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, jmembery, 12th Dec 2008, #3
           RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, Tony Bowman, 16th Dec 2008, #4
                RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, stalbansbens, 17th Dec 2008, #5
                     RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?, Tony Bowman, 17th Dec 2008, #6

ciaran
                              

senior overpayment officer, shepway district council kent
Member since
10th Jun 2005

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Fri 12-Dec-08 08:16 AM

Some maintenance that is paid will include an amount for the spouse.

This is not disregarded, so possibly this would be one reason to see evidence of the amount.

That is the only reason I can think of however,

  

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FIO
                              

Financial Inclusion Officer, Gloucestershire Housing Association, Gloucester
Member since
19th Nov 2008

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Fri 12-Dec-08 08:35 AM

I'm not sure whether all Housing Benefit forms differentiate between maintenance for the spouse and for the children? The cases I've become aware seem to concern Child Maintenance specifically, and evidence is still apparently being required of this.

Thanks for your help anyway, perhaps I'm being a bit picky!

  

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jmembery
                              

Benefits Manager AVDC, Aylesbury Vale DC - Aylusbury bucks
Member since
01st Mar 2004

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Fri 12-Dec-08 09:42 AM

Fri 12-Dec-08 09:43 AM by jmembery

The Benefit section will need to be satisfied that the maintenance is being paid in respect of the children not the spouse.

Some may just take the claimant's word for it, but I don't think it unreasonable if they choose to ask for evidence.

  

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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Tue 16-Dec-08 12:05 PM

If it is clear however that the maintenance is being paid only in respect of the child - e.g. CS maintenance, then I would agree that it might be unreasonable to insist on documentary evidence as per FIO's concerns.

If you have liaison meetings with your LA perhaps bring it up with them. I can well iimagine that some LA's would be hard-pressed to let this go and change their procedures and might need some cajoling.

Someone mentioned claim forms. Child maintenance and liable relative payments should be distinguishable on a claim form because they were treated differently anyway. I've never known the differentiation of the two to be a problem, so I don't see why it should be any different now.

  

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stalbansbens
                              

Senior (Technical) Benefit Officer, St. Albans District Council
Member since
27th Jan 2005

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Wed 17-Dec-08 11:31 AM

'Someone mentioned claim forms. Child maintenance and liable relative payments should be distinguishable on a claim form because they were treated differently anyway'

I don't know what you mean by 'liable relative payments' but the issue of the claim form is relevant. Previously if a claimant received payments from their ex-partner and they had children, there was a £15 disregard regardless of whether the payments were for the children or for the partner.

Now the payments are only totally disregarded if they are for the children - if they are for the partner (and the partner has children), it is still subject to the £15 disregard. If a Local Authority is still using old claim forms which just ask about maintenance (which would have been entirely accpetable under the old rules), they may now need to ask as to whether those payments are solely for the children or whether they contain an element of spousal maintenance.

When the new rules came we wrote to all our claimants in receipt of maintenance to establish who the payments were for because we had never previously needed this information...

  

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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

RE: Proof of Child Maintenance still required?
Wed 17-Dec-08 12:17 PM

I stand corrected. Liable relative payments are only distinguisable in IS/JSA.

  

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