A lot depends on whether the permit was granted uner the citizens directive or under reg 1612/68, i.e. whether it was pre April '06.
If it's pre 04/06 then CIS 185/2008 holds as it's a grant of a permanent right, however the registration certificates granted post 04/06 don't grant such a right; the simply confirm, at teh date of issue, that a person has a R2R.
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