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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

what is maintenance?
Tue 25-Sep-07 10:58 AM

My client's former partner pays £50 a month towards rent.

The council has treated this as a payment of maintenance (presumably under reg 40 (calculation of income other than earnings).

My feeling is that it should be treated as notional income under reg 42(6)(b) as it is a third party payment used for rent.

If the council are correct and it is maintenance, then the disregards in schedule 5 would apply. Client already has the £15 disregard applied to child support maintenance received, but could the payment be subject to the disregad in para 23 of schedule 5 "income in kind"?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

  

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Replies to this topic
RE: what is maintenance?, ariadne2, 25th Sep 2007, #1
RE: what is maintenance?, Tony Bowman, 26th Sep 2007, #2
      RE: what is maintenance?, Kevin D, 26th Sep 2007, #3
           RE: what is maintenance?, Tony Bowman, 27th Sep 2007, #4
                RE: what is maintenance?, ariadne2, 28th Sep 2007, #5

ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: what is maintenance?
Tue 25-Sep-07 07:32 PM

To whom does the ex-partner make this payment: is it to the landlord or to your client? It is only capable of being a Reg 42(6)(b) third party payment if it is made direct to the landlord.

Is the ex-partner still (has s/he ever been) personally liable for the rent as a party to the tenancy agreement? The fact that s/he is no longer living at the property is not relevant if the landlord would still have a right to take legal action against him/her for unpaid rent. In this case you would probably need to show that there was a direct agreement on the point between the landlord and the ex-partner which was the only reason for the payments.

There seems to be a potential overlap between reg 42 (6)(b) and the disregards in schedule 5 para 14 (voluntary payments), from which payments by a former partner are expressly excluded - the old "liable relative" rule. Such payments are logically then maintenance. I don't think there's a chance of the para 23 argument: sub-para (b) expressly excluded payments to a third party for the third party to provide the non-cash benefit (ie, in this case, housing).

  

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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

RE: what is maintenance?
Wed 26-Sep-07 12:09 PM

Thanks for your reply Ariadne.

The payment is direct to the landlord and is made as part of a court order in the divorce settlement. The former partner has never lived in the property and remains in the former matrimonial home.

I've never dealt with voluntary payments, but presumably, if it's made under a court order, it's not 'voluntary'?

I hadn't really understood para 23 of the schedule, but you've clarified that for me.

So that leaves us with the payment being either maintenance or notional income. Either way there is no disregard and counts. But I'm still unsure of which it is. You suggested maintenance. What is the definition of maintenance?

Thanks again,
Tony

  

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Kevin D
                              

Freelance HB & CTB Consultant/Trainer, Hertfordshire
Member since
20th Jan 2004

RE: what is maintenance?
Wed 26-Sep-07 01:25 PM

Hi Tony,

As far as I can see, there is no direct definition of "maintenance" for HB/CTB. In simple terms, any monies paid (to the clmt) by a former partner are excluded from being voluntary payments - para 14 (Sch 5). As such, it is must be taken into account (unless otherwise disregarded).

But, "maintenance" payments from a former partner are, generally, subject to a disregard of £15.00 per week where the Family Premium is due - para 47 (Sch 5).

Does this help?

  

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Tony Bowman
                              

Welfare Rights Advisor, Reading Community Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
25th Nov 2004

RE: what is maintenance?
Thu 27-Sep-07 09:29 AM

Thanks Kevin,

Is it concievable that the payments could be treated equally EITHER as maintenance, OR as notional income.

If so, then, being as it isn't a cash payment, would it still attract a maintenance disregard and thus should be preferred as maintenace rather than notional income?

For the purpose of my client's case, all questions have been answered, so this is purely a discussion point now and comes back to the subject of the topic: what is maintenace?

Has anyone come across this issue before?

  

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ariadne2
                              

Welfare lawyer and social policy collator, Basingstoke CAB
Member since
13th Mar 2007

RE: what is maintenance?
Fri 28-Sep-07 09:07 PM

See the definitions in the Social Security (Maintenance Payments and Consequential Amendments) Regulations 1996, in the Sweet and Maxwell blue volume. These I think are actually about child support and are also only setting out what most family lawyers would understand maintenance to be - a payment to support those family members whom the law expects you to support.

By the way, as you said, if ther is more than one maintenance payment, para 47 of Sch 5 aggregates them so you only get one disregard.

  

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