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karen1
                              

Personal Adviser, Connexions, Dorset
Member since
09th Jul 2007

IS and 6th formers
Mon 09-Jul-07 12:29 PM

Mon 09-Jul-07 12:30 PM by karen1

Am currently dealing with a brother and sister. Sister is 17, and brother has just finished y11. Sister is in FT education until next June, when she is planning to go to uni; brother is planning to go back into y12. Both are estranged from mum and stepdad - sister had to leave the family home last Dec and brother had to leave the house in Feb. Both are living with a family aquaintance, but there is no contact with mum or stepdad. Family aquaintance is claiming CB for sister, but CB for brother not yet transferred over. IS claims made by both brother and sister on grounds of estrangement, but both have been turned down as "living within a family unit", yet sister is claiming EMA. What is the situation here?

  

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wwr
                              

senior adviser, Wirral Welfare Rights Unit
Member since
07th Oct 2005

RE: IS and 6th formers
Fri 13-Jul-07 01:14 PM

Estrangement rules (Reg.13(2)(d), IS Regs) require young people to be estranged both from parents and from "anyone acting in place of parents". By claiming CHB the 'family acquaintance' has in effect said they are acting in place of the parents. Hence the IS refusal. 'Living within a family unit' is something of a gloss on the actual rules but in essence is saying the same thing. The EMA award doesn't say anything by itself since it could have been based on the family acquaintance's circumstances and in any event doesn't affect the benefit decisions.

Suggest the young people and the family acquaintance need to decide how they want to play it. EITHER the acquaintance claims CHB, and CTC if their income is low enough, OR withdraw the CHB claims, set up a more commercial arrangement (which could even involve charging a rent and the young people claiming HB) and resubmit IS claims. Best option will depend partly on the relationships involved (is the acquaintance looking for, and do the young people accept them having, quasi-parental responsibilities, or not) partly on a better off calculation which will depend on the acquaintance's income and other circumstances. Obviously, given the way things have started there will be a credibility problem with changing it now. But they can't do it both ways.

Richard Atkinson

  

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